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The last two sessions I attended Friday at the NIRSA show in Austin were each led by two people.

The first of those sessions was titled "Standards of Care and Legal Issues" conducted by brothers William and David Herbert. William Herbert is a professor at Virginia Tech University and has a doctorate in exercise physiology. David Herbert is an attorney in Ohio. A doctor and a lawyer in one family. A Jewish mother would be so proud, and I don't know if they're even Jewish.

The brothers Herbert discussed the different standards that several organizations have regarding preparedness for emergencies in facilities, mainly involving sudden cardiac arrest. William Herbert, an ACSM fellow, said that NIRSA should have its own guidelines for all university facilities. Staffs should practice cardiac rehabilitation exercises monthly like they do at Virginia Tech, he said. Some schools practice them as little as once a year.

The tripping point for schools, especially when it involves the use of AEDs in cardiac rehabilitation, is that only 10 states have passed laws requiring the placement of AEDs in health club settings. (They're the same 10 states listed on the IHRSA Web site.) Also, as David Herbert pointed out, not everybody is willing to fill out a Par-Q or health history questionnaire before using a facility. And if those people refuse to get their doctor's clearance to use a facility and sign a waiver and release form, those waiver and release forms are not valid in every state. Colleges and universities should be wary of these legalities, David Herbert said, especially when 90 percent of all sudden cardiac arrest cases get settled before trial, juries are unpredictable and expert witnesses are costly.

The second session involving a pair of presenters was titled "PTI for a JOB" and was patterned after the ESPN talk show "Pardon the Interruption," one of my favorites. Peter Tulchinsky of Elon University and Jay Iorizzo of TCU did a good job adhering to the format of the show, complete with such features as Toss Up!, Five Good Minutes and Heads on Sticks. Peter and Jay talked about the pros and cons of the interview process, including how to produce a good resume, setting up an interview location, and picking the right school with which to interview. I just wish there was a bell to end each segment and music to accompany the presentation. I also wish that Peter and Jay argued more, just like they do on the real PTI.

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